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Will Fry's avatar

In a further twist to the tale, that Jojoba (and I think, palm oil) that replaced the whale oil turns out to be grown in deforested tropical rainforest. So, in saving the whales we threaten the rainforest. There really is no panacea - if we want lots of stuff the environment pays the cost one way or another.

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Worth a mention... shale oil that lit Britain before coal/methane gas; the reddish shale 'bings' / spoil heaps that were such a feature of the landscape W of Edinburgh up to the 1980s when a canny Scot found a market for the material in motorway construction (I believe). He could haul it profitably using those still relatively new big diesel machines, not quite yet to scale with the one that features Ed in the iconic pic, but big enough.) The shale mining industry was mostly 19thC and preceded crude oil / refining as we know it. Interestingly vegetation could establish on the shale waste presumably because it was less toxic than coal mining spoil.

btw Nordhaus has been dreadfully misleading about the economics of climate change. I have rarely read anything as ridiculous as his thesis on the impact of CC on economics of a greatly expanded industrial civilisation.

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